LITR 5831
World / Multicultural Literature: Tragedy & Africa Oedipus Rex: begin Theban Cycle
Oedipal Conflict as family, inter-generational affair: Euripides's Hippolytus
Questions for Euripides's The Trojan Women Euripides "most tragic of poets" 1. Use of chorus in Obsidian Theater production?
Prof. Emeritus Gretchen Mieszkowski's reaction: We went last night. I was disappointed, but glad to have
seen it. I thought the first half was far too shrill, so shrill that I
often couldn’t understand the words. The director should have gotten them to
lower their voices so they weren’t bouncing off the walls in that very small
space. The second half, however, worked much better. Helen was good
and intelligible and the action came together well as Astyanax was carried off
on the shield. There’s a 1971 film of this play with Katharine Hepburn
and Vanessa Redgrave. I’ve sent for it on Netflix but they say there’s a “long
wait.” instructor's reply: I half-consciously observed what you said about the
actors’ loudness and resulting incomprehensibility but probably accounted my
difficulties more to my unfamiliarity with the play, which also accounted for
much of my pleasure since, as I mentioned over the phone, experiencing a
classical tragedy without prep made for a fresh or novel audience experience. That 1971 film has a great cast—also including Genevieve
Bujold and the peerless rantipole Brian Blessed as Talthybius—but, as I recall,
isn’t rated highly. I once had a poor-quality videotape from a late-night
broadcast but never watched far into it. It seemed like one of those movies
based on a play that can’t decide whether it’s a filmed play or a film-as-such,
but let me know if it’s worth watching.
Syrian women refugees' Trojan Women 1971 Trojan Women: Talthybius, Andromache, & Astyanax
Aristotle's Poetics: parts XIII, XIV; Discussion: instructor 13b [x-romance] Nor, again, should the downfall of the utter villain be exhibited. A plot of this kind would, doubtless, satisfy the moral sense, but it would inspire neither pity nor fear; for pity is aroused by unmerited misfortune, fear by the misfortune of a man like ourselves. contrast Romance 13b brought about not by vice or depravity, but by some error or frailty [Gk hamartia; the "tragic flaw"]. He must be one who is highly renowned and prosperous—a personage like Oedipus, Thyestes, or other illustrious men of such families. . . .
535
TIRESIAS:
That quality of yours now ruins you.
[tragic flaw] 13c] [T]he best tragedies are founded on the story of a few houses [i.e., families Oedipus l. 770 Jocasta to brothers-in-law XIV[a]. Fear and pity . . . result from the inner structure of the piece For the plot ought to be so constructed that, even without the aid of the eye, he who hears the tale told will thrill with horror and melt to pity at what takes place [catharsis], [6e Plot as soul of tragedy] the impression we should receive from hearing the story of Oedipus. we must not demand of tragedy any and every kind of pleasure, but only that which is proper to it. [14b] Let us then determine what are the circumstances which strike us as terrible or pitiful. [catharsis; compare sublime] 14c when the tragic incident occurs between those who are near or dear to one another—if, for example, a brother kills, or intends to kill, a brother, a son his father, a mother her son, a son his mother, or any other deed of the kind is done—these are the situations to be looked for by the poet.
more on tragic flaw
402
You blame my temper,
How is Oedipus like a detective story? How is Oedipus unlike a detective story? How is a detective story (or any other narrative) like a ritual? What kind of "ritual" or "ceremony" is going on in Oedipus?
How is Oedipus like a detective story? gathering of information and evidence to support or refute charges, puzzle being put together false clues, misleading evidence Oedipus as detective, questions witnesses Narrative: something happened in the past, now being recreated
137-8
a person
144
We might get
somewhere if we had one fact—
How unlike a detective story? detective convicts himself
with Oedipus story, audience pre-knows ending
How is a detective story (or any other narrative) like a ritual? relate detective theme to learning theme; narrative as critical thinking and problem solving restoration of order < narrative + conflict / resolution
Brooks on narrative 249 "You pray, but if you listen to me now" treat your own disease 281 he is our pollution God or man? 37 Oedipus "the first of men"; 355 Tiresias our god-like prophet 56 the city celebrates you as its savior. conspiracy theory 413 & earlier, + 455, 463, 481 conspiracy as downside of problem-solving, questions-answers [tragic flaw] Oedipal conflict: 554-5; 952 [oracle] my fate to definle my mother's bed . . . murder the father
dramatic pause: 673 (recognition scene managed > suspense?)
Oedipus notes opens with question; cf. Hamlet: Who's there? 12 You can be confident that I will help. [Oedipus as problem-solver; cf. detective]] 37-8 We judge you / the first of men
50 or learning from some other human being.
[learning
theme]
56 the city celebrates you as its savior. 59 Restore our city [detective theme] 80 I followed up the one thing I could find [followed up, find = path metaphor > detective metaphor] 102 CREON: Good news. I tell you even troubles ["Good news." = dramatic irony]
117-18
CREON:
By banishment—
137-8
a person
144
We might get
somewhere if we had one fact—
160 shed light on darkness. [light / darkness metaphor; learning theme] 213 Our city dies—we’ve lost count of all the dead. 245 Dionysus 308 fate swooped down onto his head 308-10 I / will fight on his behalf, as if this matter / concerned my father [dramatic irony]
343 rumors—but inconclusive ones
[ rumors = potential clues for detective] 355 our god-like prophet
363
an answer to our question: the only cure
395
Do you intend
402 You blame my temper,
421
For the accursed polluter of this land is you.
[pollution metaphor + dramatic irony]
435
you yourself
439-41 with your dearest family,
462
Creon, my old trusted family friend, 499 Do you know the family you come from? [ironic reversal: witness interrogates detective]
535
TIRESIAS:
That quality of yours now ruins you.
[tragic flaw]
663
OEDIPUS:
And if you think you can act to injure 673 dramatic pause: (recognition scene managed > suspense?) 703 think this through, as I do. [learning / understanding motif]
737-8
It's not fair to judge these things by guesswork, 756 cf. Agamemnon, Pentheus--inability to change > harden to inflexibility, unreceptive
770
JOCASTA:
You foolish men, why are you arguing
770 789 pay Creon due respect 800 Oed to extremes 815-18 when you lose your temper, you go too far. [tragic flaw / Aristotle’s hamartia (error) / hubris (excess, pride)] 841 such unremitting rage
844 It’s Creon’s fault. He conspired against me.
894
In shape he was not all that unlike you. 952 [oracle] my fate to defile my mother's bed . . . murder the father 1166-68 Jocasta speaks of Oedipal Complex 1182-4 Apollo prophesies Oedipal Conflict
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