LITR 3731: Creative
Writing 3rd meeting, 2nd poetry class
Thursday, 10 September: Second poetry workshop class + discussion of workshop 1st Poetry Author: Marcus Austin 1st Author’s Discussion Leader: Natalie Walker 2nd Poetry Author: Tara McGee 2nd Author’s Discussion Leader: Hillary Roth Web Highlight on 2008 poems & revision accounts: Faron Samford Discussion: What happens during a workshop? Improvements to presentations / discussions? Thursday, 17 September: Third poetry workshop class + discussion of reading assignments Reading assignment: Three Genres, ch. 7 (pp. 94-104); ch. 8 (pp. 105-116); ch. 9 (pp. 117-127) Reading highlight: Alicia Costello 1st Poetry Author: Niki Bippen 1st Author’s Discussion Leader: Faron Samford
fall poetry series next Wed, Sept. 16th from 5-6:30 PM. Please come and share your work, listen, or just sit in at Cappuccino Bono next week.
review quizzes Note "incomplete sentences are acceptable" Write fast--I read fast--I look for evidence that you read the assignment, then move on to the next question or quiz question 3: 3. The textbook also suggests “Six ways to jump-start a new poem” (pp. 54-6). Summarize one or more. Tanya's answer: "Read poetry."
discuss workshop Discussion: What happens during a workshop? Improvements to presentations / discussions?
What happens during a workshop? Improvements to presentations / discussions? read relevant passages from syllabus Workshop questions:
Difficulty of maintaining pleasant encouraging atmosphere versus serious work
Since it’s a creative writing course, the default is to let students determine standards by what they do Upside: surprising, spontaneous creativity catches fire among students Downside: statistically a few students will be here just to get 3 credits and will do as little as possible without drawing attention to themselves Instructor must be cautious on same terms
How intensify the workshop critique? How challenge students who bring in a draft that seems casual and undeveloped? Ask author for input comments on paper are non-confrontational
Can or should Discussion Leaders’ questions be suggested or formalized? How many drafts? What was your biggest problem? What do you want to improve? Have some standard questions plus discussion leader free to ask questions required questions generic question / prompt that can be varied for the particular poem
How coordinate author and discussion leader? quiz time for conference
When presentation schedule is handed out, let authors and discussion leaders meet to swap contact information.
Review Discussion Leader assignment
business For those not presenting or leading discussions on a given night, this course isn't very demanding . . . Do your reading and be ready for a quiz + reading discussion (more on this later tonight) Contribute to workshop discussions . . . but remember deadlines and preparations necessary danger of just showing up is that you forget that deadlines approach, especially if you're doing draft exchanges . . .
review previous class question of what to do, how much to do in a course like this-- Is a course like this substantial enough to receive college credit? Partial answer: Literature offers only one undergrad course in Creative Writing But worth a chance: Even if the course isn't very substantial in terms of reading, it attracts creative people who can turn it into something If nothing else, whether you like it or not, experience a creative workshop atmosphere Except for one-on-one review and editing, which is expensive, this is the only way most creative writing classes know how to work Minimal organization Throw creative people together, see what happens
Last week, we all jumped into the deep end of a "workshop experience" experience varied: some of it was free-for-all, chaotic, or a waste of time; but other parts suddenly became purposeful, helpful--created their own organization and reality teacher's mission: guarantee maximum freedom of expression but keep it going somewhere everybody's mission: learn and adapt on the fly Class will always be crowded, no matter
what—not much leisure for reflection during class But adjustments can be made, input welcome concerning changes Format changes in workshop author and
discussion leader will lead from front Evolving attitude changes for everyone: Two aspects to poetry that come up in workshop, since it's in person: 1. inspiration or event that led to poem (death of an elder or friend, birth of child, betrayal, first love) 2. the poem itself--the words on the page What you can learn: focus on work, poem, text, art repress reflections on subject matter-- last class: suicide subject, or random violence subject People want to share, natural human response, OK + sometimes less sensitive to talk about the subject matter of the poem than to criticize the formal qualities of the poem
What to do instead? > more "criticism of form"--not the idea as much as the expression of the idea less ethical discussion or discussions of shared experience
Practice and commitment to process help Two aspects to emphasize in formal criticism of poetry: Development of images > image clusters Sound—rhythm, rhyme, alliteration, etc.
Three
Genres, ch. 1 p. 1 line,
images, sound, rhythm, density p. 3 images = senses p. 4 a genre
of the senses
an image can appeal to sight, sound, smell, taste, touch but mostly visual Ch. 4 Images: The Essential element
57 images as concrete nouns (explain “concrete”) Opposite: abstraction > translate into sight and sound 58 a fully developed image 58-9 strong nouns, x-adjectives 59 images > figures of speech 60 simile, metaphor—both comparisons 60 examples 62-3 other figures of speech 63 cliché as dying metaphor 65 image as symbol, greater range of meaning 67 public symbol 68- image clusters (extended metaphor)
Piano D. H.
Lawrence
images make you feel honest, fresh feeling rooted in familiar experience "as strange and familiar as a dream"
Bump my reading review to next class—bring books |