Sarah Finigan, Actors from the London Stage Grateful, long day, concluding w/ Actors' 1st performance tonight, also Friday and Saturday text midterm2--use what you learn today, or what you see in R&J, as research source for midterm2 and final exam Learning about Tragedy (Essay 2) Research Report, esp. teaching tragedy
Questions: ask about tragedy generally? Greek and / or Shakespearean tragedy? Modern tragedy? (ask about experience practicing, performing any) Antigone acting, directing, turning text / script into production?
Playing role of Nurse in R&J, my first awareness of comedy in tragedy What power or limits to comic scenes in a tragedy?
Greatness of Tragedy
302
Guard: Every one of us was responsible, 388 ode to Man choral ode
Discussion questions: 1. A generation ago, Oedipus the King was the standard "classical tragedy" read in secondary schools. Today the tragedy of choice is Antigone, which is more popular to teach as classical tragedy in schools today—why? What are its appeals compared to Oedipus the King? How does Antigone feel more popular and appear more modern? (tragedy modernizes) feminist theme: woman standing up to patriarchy (while another woman bows); Eurydice as woman's relational identity civil disobedience theme--can be taught with Dr. King, Thoreau, Mandela, others (Antigone & the tradition of civil disobedience) straightforward ethical conflict that comes down for family values over government tyranny connects to Oedipus story but avoids yuck factor of Oedipus the King (background information your students will mostly ignore except for brief recoil)
(higher law)
510 I did not think
Consider Romance elements, such as Antigone as oppressed underdog, Creon as patriarchal villain, suicide as transcendence. Compare Antigone to Romeo & Juliet as "romantic tragedy" or "tragic romance." romance b/w Antigone & Haemon--compare double suicide of Romeo & Juliet Antigone as romance heroine--won't back down, independent, admirable but not restricted to traditional femininity Romance characterization as simpler: Antigone as virtuous heroine, Creon as inflexible authority figure
655
ANTIGONE:
Dearest Haemon,
[Haemon, Antigone’s
fiancé, is not present in the scene]
781
Haemon: Because of who you are, you can't perceive
But in the darkness I can hear them
talk—
[darkness & perception
figures]
(Cf. Cassandra as romance of doomed youth)
998
ANTIGONE:
Oh my tomb and bridal
chamber—
1006 nourishing the vital hope
1011 Polynices,
Antigone is the first-written of Sophocles's Theban plays. How does the conclusion seem like a young writer's? e.g., melodramatic or "over-the-top" end to Antigone & Haemon? Too obvious and sweeping a change for Creon?
2. Only men wrote Greek tragedies, but women often appear as central characters. What conflicts or responsibilities do they represent that make their lives appropriate subjects for tragedy? In Antigone, for instance, how do the title character's gender-conflicts expose larger problems in Thebes and its leadership?
741
So spit this girl out—she’s your enemy.
748
If I foster
any lack of full respect
760 We must obey
760
781
Haemon: Because of who you are, you can't perceive
But in the darkness I can hear them
talk—
[darkness & perception
figures]
799 don’t let your mind dwell on just one
thought,
[a democratic argument]
804 For any man,
820
CHORUS LEADER:
My lord, if what he’s
said is relevant,
838
HAEMON:
A city which belongs to just
one man
3. Who is the play's tragic hero? Antigone or Creon? How much does Creon's tragic flaw appear as a crisis of masculinity? Creon as political leader: when to back down, when to bend principle Creon as clear example of tragic flaw (far easier to approach and comprehend than Oedipus's tragic flaw)
88 Antigone: So be what you want.
185
CREON:
Men, after much tossing of
our ship of state,
[ship of state metaphor] 323 could this act not be something from the gods?
CREON:
Stop now—before what you’re
about to say
534
CHORUS LEADER:
It’s
clear enough 597 ANTIGONE: But my nature is to love. I cannot hate. 600 No woman’s going to govern me— [masculinity crisis?] 600
624
ANTIGONE: Don’t try to share my
death or make a claim
741
So spit this girl out—she’s your enemy.
748
If I foster
any lack of full respect
760 We must obey
760
1236
CREON: Alas—it’s difficult. But I’ll
give up.
1243 I’ve changed my mind. . . . Now I’m afraid.
4. How comical (or potentially comic) are the Guard's repeated appearances? ll. 256 ff., 366, 385, 432-450
256
GUARD:
My lord, I can’t say I’ve
come out of breath 366 GUARD: Do I have your permission to speak now, [sarcasm / irony]
383ff
GUARD:
Well, I hope he’s found.
["he": the culprit who honored Polynices with burial rites]
435 chatterbox guard
Learning theme
804 For any man,
820
CHORUS LEADER:
My lord, if what he’s
said is relevant,
838
HAEMON:
A city which belongs to just
one man 883 CREON: No—not the one whose hands are clean. You’re right. [Creon here shows some ability to listen, change]
1138 Consider this, my son. 1150 Learning can be pleasant when a man speaks well, 1153 even prophets are now aiming at me. [tragic flaw of being unreceptive to learning and change]
1415
CHORUS LEADER:
Alas, it seems you’ve
learned to see what’s right— CREON: Aaiiii . . . I’ve learned it in my pain. 1463 the guilt for all of this is mine
1496 great blows of punishment—
Notes for Antigone
388
There are many strange and
wonderful things,
21
ANTIGONE: I know that. That’s why I
brought you here,
45
Now you know, and you’ll quickly demonstrate
57
ISMENE:
What? You’re going to bury
Polynices,
ANTIGONE: Yes. I’ll do
my duty to my
brother—
[higher law theme] 77 We must remember that by birth we’re women, . . . we shouldn’t fight with men.
82
So I’ll ask those underground for pardon—
[those
underground =
the dead]
88 So be what you want. 105 ANTIGONE: No, no. Announce the fact— [civil disobedience needs publicity]
185
CREON:
Men, after much tossing of
our ship of state,
[ship of state metaphor]
221 (Creon) Eteocles, who perished in the
fight
302
Guard: Every one of us was responsible, 323 could this act not be something from the gods?
CREON:
Stop now—before what you’re
about to say
388
There are many strange and
wonderful things,
He’s taught himself speech and
wind-swift thought,
429-30
Surely they’ve not brought you here 435 chatterbox guard
488 we rushed up right
away
510 I did not think
518 I know all too well I’m going to die—
534
CHORUS LEADER:
It’s
clear enough
548
if she gets her way and goes unpunished,
593 Hades still desires equal rites for both.
[Hades = god of the
underworld, lord of the dead]
CREON:
A good man does not wish what
we give him
ANTIGONE: Who knows? In the world
below perhaps 597 ANTIGONE: But my nature is to love. I cannot hate. 600 No woman’s going to govern me— [masculinity crisis?] 600
624
ANTIGONE: Don’t try to share my
death or make a claim 634 ANTIGONE: But you chose life—it was my choice to die. 649 ISMENE: How could I live alone, without her here? [intellectual > emotional; philosophy > art; narrative]
651 CREON: Why not?
There are other fields for him to plow. [crudely sexist metaphor implies Creon’s masculinity crisis.]
655
ANTIGONE:
Dearest Haemon,
[Haemon, Antigone’s
fiancé, is not present in the scene]
696
From now on into all future time,
741
So spit this girl out—she’s your enemy.
748
If I foster
any lack of full respect
760 We must obey
760
781
Haemon: Because of who you are, you can't perceive
But in the darkness I can hear them
talk—
[darkness & perception
figures]
799 don’t let your mind dwell on just one
thought,
[a democratic argument]
804 For any man,
820
CHORUS LEADER:
My lord, if what he’s
said is relevant,
838
HAEMON:
A city which belongs to just
one man 883 CREON: No—not the one whose hands are clean. You’re right. [Creon here shows some ability to listen, change]
912
Antigone going to her bridal room
998
ANTIGONE:
Oh my tomb and bridal
chamber—
1006 nourishing the vital hope
1011 Polynices,
1041
may they endure no greater punishment
1113
among those birds an unknown cry—
[indicated
fate or the gods’ will]
1128 Our state is sick—
1138 Consider this, my son. 1150 Learning can be pleasant when a man speaks well, 1153 even prophets are now aiming at me. [tragic flaw of being unreceptive to learning and change]
1173 how good advice 1191 you won’t change my mind to make yourself more rich. 1227 you need to listen to some good advice.
1236
CREON: Alas—it’s difficult. But I’ll
give up.
1243 I’ve changed my mind. . . . Now I’m afraid.
1288 Messenger: The lucky and unlucky rise or fall
1320 I heard someone speaking of bad news
1320
1331 Polynices’s corpse, still unlamented,
1336 We gave the corpse a ritual wash, and burned 1346 an unintelligible scream of sorrow. [not actually heard by audience; only recounted by messenger; spectacle repressed]
1381 corpse on corpse, his marriage
1415
CHORUS LEADER:
Alas, it seems you’ve
learned to see what’s right— CREON: Aaiiii . . . I’ve learned it in my pain. 1426 Is there something still more evil than all this? 1429 a gathering place for death
1451 she called out evil things against you, 1463 the guilt for all of this is mine
1496 great blows of punishment—
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