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LITR 3731: Creative
Writing fiction workshops & readings
Thursday, 15 October: Fiction workshop + discussion of reading assignments Reading assignment: Three Genres, ch. 12 (pp. 145-154); Reading highlight: Veronica Nadalin 1st Fiction Author: Peter Becnel 1st fiction Author’s Discussion Leader: Paul Acevedo 2nd Fiction Author: Hillary Roth 2nd fiction Author’s Discussion Leader: Tara McGee Thursday, 22 October: Fiction workshop + discussion of reading assignments Reading assignment: ch. 14 (pp. 167-174); ch. 15 (pp. 175-181) Reading highlight: J J Torres 1st Fiction Author: Jackie Baker 1st fiction Author’s Discussion Leader: Karina Ramos
midterms
What's left for you to do with poetry? Revise / Resubmit for webpage?-- Optional Email me a fresh file any time this semester (or beyond)—doesn’t take long for me to make changes on the webpage. Resubmissions aren’t required and don’t necessarily help or change any grades, but a few students usually want this option, and sometimes it’s part of your overall improvement during a semester > grade considerations. Possibility of resubmission at any point before or soon after final
Regardless . . . Submit poem(s) to Bayousphere
Bayousphere, Marrow Student Research Conference or many other publications, print or online Even if I criticized your poem and you think I didn’t like it, consider submitting I’m judging only from an academic standpoint, having to do not only with poetic appeal but with what you’re showing from class + poetic standards I’ve learned as a scholar and teach—not as an editor. Your poem’s positive reception in the workshop and draft exchanges may indicate its potential popularity Just how exclusive is Bayousphere? The answer depends on the competition or standards set by other submissions. Writers’ proverb: “the worst they can say is No.”
What's left for you to do with poetry?
Revise / Resubmit for webpage
If you want to revise your posted poem, you may send in a fresh file at any time this semester—it doesn’t take long for me to make changes on the webpage.
Resubmissions aren’t required and don’t necessarily help or change any grades, but a few students usually want this option, and sometimes it’s part of your overall improvement during a semester > grade considerations.
Already one completely new poem posted.
Possibility of resubmission at any point before or soon after final
Confer over poetry, submissions, work in general
welcome to follow up on my response to your poetry submission--by email, phone, or conference. I’ll be around during Spring Break or after.
Submit to Bayousphere or other publications
Even if I criticized your poem and you think I didn’t like it, consider submitting their poem to Bayousphere. I’m judging only from an academic standpoint, having to do not only with poetic appeal but with what you’re showing from class + poetic standards I’ve learned as a scholar and teach—not as an editor.
Your poem’s positive reception in the workshop and draft exchanges may indicate its potential popularity
Just how exclusive is Bayousphere? The answer depends on the competition or standards set by other submissions. Writers’ proverb: “the worst they can say is No.”
Possibility of resubmission at any point before or soon after final
Note for first lecture: students swap emails, phones
assignments & handouts introduction to fiction basic instruction-- comparable to lesson on poetry re "sight and sound" sight: visual images--picture in the mind sound: rhythm, rhyme, muting, repetition / chant
fiction: narrator + dialogue
fiction scene overdoing narrative fiction scene overdoing dialogue
ch. 12 (pp.
145-154) Fact and Fiction 145 three
types of prose writing: factual, creative, and creative nonfiction 145 fiction +- lying 145 analyses 145 experiences, details > reshape: divide , mix, alter, transform 145 select
what we need and invent the rest 145 creative or literary nonfiction: informal essay 146 concern for language + personal, informal tone 146 [chart] 146 x “untrue” > “seems true” 146 real life:
jumble of unconnected events and repetitious activities 147 edit
unconsciously 147 fictional totally liberated from experience as it happened 147 [no arguing taste] 147 simple x sophisticated 148 comic strip x
Catcher in the Rye 148 sophisticated x suave and urbane 149 large
circulation magazines: New Yorker, Harper’s, Atlantic 149 literary journals and quarterlies 149 plot, characters, setting, theme 149 plot: conventions, formulas 149 characterization: simple x get to know 149 ambivalence 150 setting: simple: cliché + exotic 150 quick entertainment x memorable themes 150 five narrative modes of fiction: dialogue, thought, action, description, & exposition [> narrator
+ dialogue] 151 character < dialogue & thought 151 four categories: short-short story, story, novella, novel 152-3 three motives for writing fiction Private motive Commercial motives Literary motive (measure against best) ch. 13 (pp.
155-166) Where Stories Come From 155 fresh material < own life, original, unique what we know well + invent 155 formula writing 156 seven deadly sins of fiction 156 High-Tech Melodrama search-and-capture / kill 156 Adolescent Tragedy: Lack of perspective, sentimentality, & warning signs (perspective): real names, plot “how it happened” 157 avoid the big familiar pattern 157 Twilight Zone Rerun gimmick x character, subject, theme 158 vampires resurrected 158 baby-boomer gone wrong 158 Temptations of Ernest Goodwriter 159 My Weird Dream 160 authenticity of personal experience 160 short fiction x high drama 160 one foot in circle of familiar +
one foot reaching out 160 “waiting for inspiration” = procrastination 161 genuine emotions are always fresh 161 try a page or two from perspective of other character 162 memory 163 transformation: from facts to fiction 163 conscious transformation 164 transformation = psychic liberation 165 “Not even your best friend would read it” 165 junk details 165 fuse 2 people into single fictional character Classical idea from Socrates, Plato, Aristotle: Art is an imitation of reality. Art: Not just visual art, but writing as art, creation imitation: representation, mirror reality: nature, the world, society, life, the soul, etc. Another way: art is "like" life doesn't pretend to be exactly the same
146 real life: jumble of unconnected events and repetitious activities 147 edit unconsciously [humans are story-telling creatures--we can do this without thinking about it--but can get better with thinking about it]
Leftover notes from previous classes
Many different meanings, ways to interpret poetry and fiction Everyone needs to learn something, but de-emphasize "rules" for sake of learning process, life-time learning, good learning habits and models Compared to other areas, literature teachers or language practitioners do not so much provide rules and definite answers (though we're supposed to know more about language), but to help people use language ask questions, think for themselves, develop thoughts, express insights, and discuss answers. hard to fit with "teaching to the test" but important to civilization testing and accountability = minimal skills But some resources and efforts have to go beyond minimal skills > leadership, imagination toward a better society Literature and language teachers can't make that better society happen by themselves, but language and literature classes are often the only places where young people ever get a glimpse of another reality. 3. art is imitation & reshaping of life, reality Classical idea from Socrates, Plato, Aristotle: Art is an imitation of reality. Art: Not just visual art, but writing as art, creation imitation: representation, mirror reality: nature, the world, society, life, the soul, etc. Another way: art is "like" life doesn't pretend to be exactly the same
146 real life: jumble of unconnected events and repetitious activities 147 edit unconsciously [humans are story-telling creatures--we can do this without thinking about it--but can get better with thinking about it] 1. form of fiction (compare-contrast lyric poetry and drama) title of book: Three Genres What's a genre? "A class or type of literature" Concept of genre is a part of everybody's common sense: What kind of book are you reading? A mystery, a thriller, a love story.
Genre can mean lots of different things. 151 four categories: short-short story, story, novella, novel
Our book mostly uses a more academic sense: what are the forms or elements of poetry (line, image, figure of speech, metaphor, etc.) or of fiction p. 150 five narrative modes of fiction: dialogue, thought, action, description, & exposition A critic can constantly subdivide elements, but simpler options available LITR
4533 Tragedy: handout on genres [ > narrator + dialogue] Review last class on poetry > fiction 1. form of fiction (compare-contrast lyric poetry and drama) 2. fiction as fact or invention / lies > truth? 3. art is imitation & reshaping of life, reality
instructor's follow-up
Fiction discussion Many different meanings, ways to interpret poetry and fiction Everyone needs to learn something, but de-emphasize "rules" for sake of learning process, life-time learning, good learning habits and models Compared to other areas, literature teachers or language practitioners do not so much provide rules and answers (though we're supposed to know more about language), but to help people use language ask questions, express insights, and discuss answers. Difficult approach for "teaching to the test" but more important to civilization Can defend testing and accountability in terms of minimal skills But some resources and efforts have to go beyond minimal > leadership, imagination toward a better society Literature and language teachers can't make that better society happen by themselves, but language and literature classes are often the only places where young people ever get a glimpse of another reality. Review last class on poetry > fiction 1. form of fiction (compare-contrast lyric poetry and drama) 2. fiction as fact or invention / lies > truth? 3. art is imitation & reshaping of life, reality 3. art is imitation & reshaping of life, reality Classical idea from Socrates, Plato, Aristotle: Art is an imitation of reality. 146 real life: jumble of unconnected events and repetitious activities 147 edit unconsciously [humans are story-telling creatures--we can do this without thinking about it--but can get better with thinking about it]
2. fiction as fact or invention / lies > truth?
Chapter 13: Where Stories come from 145 experiences, details from real life > reshape: divide , mix, alter, transform 145 select what we need and invent the rest 160 one foot in circle of familiar + one foot reaching out
conclusion: Literature may not be as real as reality, but it can be more true than reality denser, richer, more intense than everyday life
Minot's changes in what really happened >
"Sausages and Beer" 176 memory of own life 176 combination of emotions, odd mix of fascination, revulsion, & fear [when you make something completely up, your emotions become predictable—reality is stranger and richer than our power to invent—but we can rearrange] 176 language of insane, x-invention 177 mother, not father takes pressure off major transformations > delicious discovery
189 viewpoint, point of view, means of perception, [perspective] viewpoint does not equal attitude 189 1st person = I 190 third person [limited] 190 increases readers’ sense of identification 190 maintains suspense 191 deliberate withholding of information
197 4 first aid steps 198 1 don’t tear up draft 2 write sample x abstract analysis 3 trust instinct 4 focus: look at first and last pages 200 episodes in life > scenes in fiction: basic units arrangement of scenes = plot 200 “Sausage & Beer”: 3 major blocks: hospital, visit, bar 206 pace < style: length & complexity of sentence structure 206 rate of revelation 206 high-speed car crashes & catastrophic explosions x subtlety of theme and richness of character
Effect and organization of poetry and fiction < numbers and types of voices "genres"—types or classes of literature Lyric poetry: intense impression < single voice (usually one speaker "sings" the poem, like a song on the radio) Fiction: moments of intensity, but effects are more varied, less centrally focused < more than one speaker: narrator + dialogue of characters 178 cutting blocks of material is painful > Lost Gems file 180 initial memory borrowed memories pure invention 181 imagine self as new reader Today’s tastes in literary fiction discount third-person omniscient viewpoint in favor of more limited perspectives like “first person” and “third-person limited.” With their internal views, these limited styles expose deeper psychological identities and conflicts. In contrast, “omniscient” or “all-seeing” view may appear old-fashioned and shallow. Along with first-person style, omniscient perspective dominated the early novel, with third-person limited perspective developing later. Yet third-person omniscient viewpoint remains standard for mass-market fiction—e. g., The Da Vinci Code or The Hunt for Red October—which rapidly shifts perspective from one character or scene to another like a movie camera. For later readers this resemblance between Cooper’s viewpoint and cinema remains one of the author’s greatest appeals. Two effects make the third-person omniscient an useful vehicle for Cooper’s Tales. Omniscient or “all-seeing” perspective observes action like a wide-screen movie camera watching people move through vast landscapes, as in films like Dances with Wolves or Braveheart. In the historical novel Waverly (1814), the British novelist Walter Scott used such a technique to describe battles between English and rebel forces in Scotland. Cooper skillfully adapted this point of view for the military maneuvers, perilous journeys, and spacious landscapes of his frontier and sea romances. Pathfinder employs this technique strikingly in the opening chapters, where Leather-stocking and others help Mabel escape a river ambush to join her father at Fort Oswego. Third-person omniscient also succeeds with populous social scenes in which characters’ speech and gestures declare their identities and, to an extent, their inner states of mind. Cooper found this style comfortable for novels of manners like Precaution and The Spy. In Pathfinder he relocates it to the frontier of North America. The novel’s richest social scene is a “shooting match” at Fort Oswego. Like medieval ladies at jousting tournaments in Scott’s Ivanhoe, the spectators—officers’ wives, Mabel, and the common soldiers’ wives—seat themselves on planks according to “the etiquette of rank” (XI). Everything glitters, but all is witnessed from outside. By 1840, however, fashions in literature were changing. As fiction matured, perspective became more personal. “Third-person limited” point of view focuses selectively on the internal consciousness of individuals. Fiction by Nathaniel Hawthorne such as The Scarlet Letter influenced this style’s development. Abandoning the omniscient’s wide scope, limited viewpoint deepens psychological intensity. The resulting ambiguities appeal to modern tastes for irony and self-deception. Hard to summarize fiction b/c multi-voiced "Novel theorists" defend fiction as best imitation of modern reality modern reality is multi-voiced > novel automatically multi-voiced (narrator + characters in dialogue, each expressing a different take on the world) poems make you feel, open up your heart-mind to totally new impressions fiction makes you see or experience reality from different angles, perspectives Preview final exam: what are you learning? About creative writing, teaching it, or both?
business Baby card for Mary Bel good example of "greeting card verse"
Friday email from Mary Bel
Thomas Silas Garza arrived on October 17, 2006 at 4:39pm.
He weighed 5lbs. 9oz and 18 1/2 in. He was small but everything is great and
healthy. From the birth to the arrival at home on Thursday all is going well
and we are loving every minute of it. With everything going smoothly so far I
should be seeing you all in a couple of weeks. . . .
PS Note to : Dr. White will you please let Anissa know for
me? She is keeping notes for me in a another course.
(leftover notes from 2005) Online student communications:
2 emails from Devon to Audra on class of 7 March
Ok, well I am just full of technical difficulties...this time it is minor, I can't find Audra's e-mail address so lets hope my memory hasn't failed me!
So here goes...HI Audra, how are you? We loved your picture of the
munchkin, you are so lucky that the school is working with you to finish
classes. I dunno if you remember me, but I had Paolini's class with
you last semester. You usually sat with Glenna and I was always on the
back row, sometimes right in front of you, depending on how late I got to
class and what classroom we were in (due to the construction!).
Sorry I didn't e-mail you sooner! I guess Dr. White knew what he was
doing when he gave me the week before Spring Break to talk to you. My
reputation (procrastination) precedes me! Actually, the sad thing is
that I keep telling myself to do it, but I just hate getting on the
computer. i have a little girl who just turned 1 and she loves the
blue lighted button that turns the computer off!! I bet you are having
an absolute blast with your little one...its an experience you just can't
describe to people and friends without kids. Its crazy...
Well, I will shut up and get to business or this e-mail will turn into a
novel!
Our last class was a lot of fun! First, we read "The Call
Goodbye" which i am sure you have already read. I am horrible
with names so I didn't get everyone's name during the discussion, but I will
try to relay what we talked about. No one in the class predicted the
ending of the story; the gift she bought that ended up being a gun was a
nice twist ending. Someone suggested that she remove the word suicide
from the last paragraph since the meaning was implied without saying the
word. After the respondent (Lindsay) asked for our comments, she began
with her questions. First, "Did you want the reader to feel sorry
for her?" JAMIE: "No, just to have her realize how trashy she
looked and how others perceived her." Jamie said she didn't think
too much about what the audience would feel towards the main character.
JAMIE remarked that she felt like it was hard to read and that she had
trouble reading it. KAREN: "Fix the past and present tense
problems, that's why its harder to read". DR. WHITE:
"Consider doing part of it in present tense and part of it in
past". KAREN: "Change to past when she flashes to
memories".
SHERRY: "The end goes too fast". There was more
build-up at the beginning of the story than at the end. ANDREA:
"Turn it into conversation instead of detail". Andrea was
talking about the part where Brad asks her what had happened to
her...the paragraph immediately following could be written in dialogue
instead of a paragraph of details. SHERRY: "Should we feel sorry
for Brad?" LINDSAY: "Make it longer and do more character
development so that we know more about Brad and their
relationship". ANDREA: "A loud noise went
off...doesn't sound right. A gun doesn't just go off, noises don't
just go off. It's like my daughter when she says she is 'going' with a
boy and I say 'well, where are you going?' They aren't going
anywhere". JENNIFER J.: "How does she feel when she
leaves the hotel looking all beat up?" we want more info on
the main character's feelings after the experience. We then had a
brief discussion about brainstorming and where jamie got the idea.
Jamie said that she has never written fiction and the idea just came to
her. The class especially enjoyed the line "I don't care to hear
anything that comes out of a million man dick hole"...it was
definitely creative and unique. DR. WHITE: Pointed out that the
story leans too heavily on the character's names...ie: Brad, the
insurance salesman and Enrique the hot stud :). Perhaps the names
can be changed, or you could just add more description. let
us know more about Brad and Enrique...hwo was the marriage, how did they
meet, etc. DR. WHITE: "Keep the line, 'Since
she's an interior decorator, it was the perfect lie', but bring in her
profession earlier in the story, perhaps to tell how she met Enrique. ANDREA:
"take
out 'it was the perfect lie'". Personally, I ! like the line, but
Dr. White had a good point about discussing her profession earlier in the
story rather than it being an afterthought. JENNIFER J.: "Add in
some wifely duties of hers". The class thought that the monotony
of taking care of the kids and husband should be accentuated early in the
story. perhaps a comment like "make the kids lunches for
school" or " making the beds, as she did every morning".
Some people figured this would show how frustrated she was with her life. I
think it would be good to add the wifely duties into the story, but I
think it should be done carefully so as not to make the reader feel sorry
for her. Jamie want s the reader to see how trashy she behaved,
not to feel sorry for her. Also, by alluding to the children earlier
in the story the reader knows that they exist rather than having them
appear out of nowhere at the end of the story.
i think this is way too long, but I am trying to give you all the
details...SORRY!! I am going to send this, then send the second half
of class separately b/c I am afraid AOl will cut me off or something and I
will lose this forever long e-mail!! By-yee for 2 seconds...Devon
(2nd email)
After break we read Jennifer Jones' "water fairy". It was a
really nice story that is aiming for YA lit. that was the first
question from KAREN: "iS IT ya LIT?" JENNIFER:
eventually wants to write a Ya novel, but this is just a chapter. It
was funny b/c every question we asked her, she already had an answer to.
we wanted to know the reasons she did certain things, but they are elements
that she will reveal in later chapters. Also, even though the chapters
in our textbook said that using dialects can hurt a story, DR. WHITE SAID
THAT IT REALLY WORKED IN THIS STORY. She only uses the Irish
dialect for the grandmother because she didn't want to over-do it. Most
of the story will take place in Ireland, but she still didn't want to stress
the dialect. Jennifer has never been to Ireland but she is very
interested in the land and culture.&n! bsp; The plants that she alludes
to are actually plants that would be in Ireland. JAMIE: "The
readers questions are answered as the story goes on. She doesn't give
things away, but lets us wonder." I wrote that Sherry suggested
that she take the name setup at the beginning of the story and imply it
through the dialogue, but I don't remember quite what she meant by that.
I listened too much without writing enough. I think she wanted Jennifer
to discuss Morgen's name problem through dialogue rather than a couple of
paragraphs of detail. Jennifer assured us that everything will be
revealed in the end and we are all dying to find out. ANDREA:
"How did you set everything up, having never been there?" Jennifer
has done a lot of research and I think that Andrea has actually been helping
her with some of the research. It turns out that they have been doing
peer review for each other ever since we had the guest speaker talk to us.
They invited the rest of us to join them in e-mail peer reviews.
Andrea also asked if we felt like there were any parts that would lose the
reader's interest, but we were all intrigued throughout the chapter. We
decided it will be a great story for girls, but that most guys won't be able
to relate. DR. WHITE commented on the flashback about Miami right
before Finola is introduced. it needs to be expanded and worked in a
little bit better, b/c it seems out of place. I didn't mind it b/c it
seemed like daydream and then the grandmother snapped her back to
reality. We are all excited to read the rest of her book since we are
kept in suspense and promised the rest of the story.
After that we talked about the readings...
In ch.17, focus on Viewpoint, knowing different viewpoints, telling a story
from two different viewpoints can reveal different avenues. P 198 has
four points to pay attention to, a checklist to follow. A quick fix in
case of emergency.
In ch. 18, clock time vs. psychological time...psychological time is how we
chunk up our days, we don't see it as a flowing process. Brad was
written in clock time whereas the woman was written in psychological time.
Flashbacks...effective when they are done right. Bad when overdone (wayne's
world). ANDREA: "talked about flash forwards, how else does
it work? How can you see into the future?" DR.WHITE:
In two weeks we will read a story that has a flash forward. A flash
forward gets out of the stream of the story. p203 "oddly even
careless readers...aware of the technique." TARA: "OPENINGS
AND CLOSINGS, ESPECIALLY CLOSINGS leave the readers unsatisfied when they
aren't done right". When she said that, i commented on my own
dissatisfaction with YA books today. I don't know if you read a lot of
YA books, but I have read several recently The Giver, The Chocolate War,
Green Angel, and Anna of Byzantium that all had these morbid
unresolved endings. Ia m a happy ending kind of person. I need
closure or I go nuts!! Anyways...Dr. white concluded by reminding us
about the required elements of our fiction piece (make sure its long enough,
etc)...and that was that!!! ten years later, I hope your eyes
aren't falling out of your head by now. Once i start, you really can't
shut me up!! Have fun and I'll talk to you later!! By-yee, Devon
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