LITR 4232: American Renaissance
University of Houston-Clear Lake, spring 2003
Student Presentation Summary

Reader: Claire Garza
Recorder: Robert  Andresakis
Presentation: The Last of the Mohicans
Chapters 1-13

Discussion:  Focusing on objective 2, relating to the gothic elements in the novel.

Focusing on objective 3, to use literature as a basis for discussing representative problems and subjects of American culture such as equality, race, gender and tradition.

Objective 2

For instance, in the beginning of the book on pg. 19 there is a description of Magua, the Huron warrior which emphasizes the dark and light relating to the gothic.   "His body, which was nearly naked, presented a terrific emblem of death, drawn in intermingled colors of white and black.  Magua is described as an emblem of death, and the word death has a gothic feeling also. Further down the passage, again his body is described in full detail and there is mention of his manhood being still at its fullest in strength.  "The expanded chest, full-formed limbs, and grave countenance of this warrior would denote that he had reached the vigour of his days, though no symptoms of decay appeared to have yet weakened his manhood. The word decay comes across as dark and gothic, and the feeling of this passage seems to point out that Magua is a strong, threatening man.

On page 54, another passage came across as very gothic. "The young native had already descended to the water to comply, when a long howl was raised on the edge of the river, and was borne swiftly off into the depths of the forest, as though the beasts, of their own accord, were abandoning their prey in sudden terror. Uncas, with instinctive quickness, receded, and the three foresters held another of their low, earnest conferences.  This passage is very dark. The fact that the beasts of the forest are running away in fear themselves would put an even scarier feeling in the air. The howl is much like the screams of Icobod in the forest and this scene does take place in the depths of the forest so it comes across as very gothic.

Objective 3

The first issue of objective 3 is gender reference and equality.  Gender comes up numerous times throughout the novel.  The gender of the women is taken into consideration during times of long exertion. The women are seen as weak and must be given moments to rest.  They are unequal to the men in endurance and are never given the chance to make the long haul without resting.  On page 32, Duncan says to Magua, "We have a few moments to spare; let us not waste them in talk like wrangling women, When the ladies are refreshed we will proceed.  The palefaces make themselves dogs to their women, muttered the Indian, in his native language; and when they want to eat, their warriors must lay aside the tomahawk to feed their laziness".  This statement relates to tradition and race.  It is traditional for the women to ride on horseback the whole trip and to receive occasional resting breaks that the men do not require.  Race is brought up when Magua refers to the British officers as palefaces.  The Indians have come up with a term to describe a race that is very different from their own. 

Another reference to gender includes the idea that man has a swift strong hand and that woman has a soft, dainty wrist. On page 110, Hawk-eye explains, "But go sideling or go straight, Uncas had seen the movement, and their trail led us on to the broken bush. The outer branch, near the prints of one of the horses, was bent upward, as a lady breaks a flower from its stem; but all the rest were ragged and broken down, as if the strong hand of a man had been tearing them". 

Again race is mentioned in the text.  Hawk-eye talks of the Hurons with a slang term the Whites may not understand. This term is Mingo and he uses it in a discriminating way. On page 29, Hawk-eye says, "A Mingo is a Mingo, and God having made him so, neither the Mohawks nor any other tribe can alter him."  Which to me means, Hawk-eye would never trust any Huron.  Angie Rau from last semester also mentions discrimination in reference to Magua not fully trusting Cora because she does not have the full appearance of an Indian and takes on some characteristics of the whites.

Question 1:  If the Indians did not even trust their own native peoples who they likely shared some sort of ancestry or basic culture with, then did they ever really have hopes of living amongst the whites in peace without fully enveloping new ways of living, learning, and thinking, in accordance with the white culture?  

2. How could we relate this to a possible modern day threat of war?

3. If the current trend back then was to make the world England, are we in danger now of trying to make the world the United States?

Claire states that she will be referring back to objective 2 and objective 3 of the course syllabus. Section 2 relates to the gothic elements in Last of The Mohicans and section 3 relates to the discussion of representative problems in the story and how it relates to the problems of today.

Objective 2 -description  of Magua emphasizes the gothic with the playing of light and black imagery. Reads from the passage The body is described as… Reading from the passage Presence of a Gothic Feeling.         On page 54

Student A What page?

Claire: 3 pages into chapter 7 in the middle.

Doctor White: Around page 64

Claire: Reads from a passage.  So that passage is pretty dark, The fact of the beasts running away… The Howl is equated to the screams from Ichabod ( Reference to legend of sleepy hollow)

Objective 3 as it relates to gender… Comes up numerous tomes especial during the long exertion… not equal to man…

Page 32 at end of Chapter 4 Duncan says to Magua…Reading from book… Statement relates to tradition and race where women ride on horse back … race.. pale faces.. another reference to gender. On page 110 end of the chapter 12 4 paragraphs down, Hawkeye is explaining … Reading from book… So that is basically how you attract woman… gender reference…

… discriminating of the .. page 129 I guess middle of chapter 4 hallways down. Reading from book. Which basically says that Hawkeye will never trust anyone.

 

Question 1:  If the Indians did not even trust their own native peoples who they likely shared some sort of ancestry or basic culture with, then did they ever really have hopes of living amongst the whites in peace without fully enveloping new ways of living, learning, and thinking, in accordance with the white culture?

 

Student 1: It is kind of two fold you are saying that … because they have problems with themselves. {The student was asking for a clarification of the question and presented his reasonings}

Claire:  Native Americans versus today {Claire responded by narrowing down her argument.}

Student 2: Comparing to England?

Claire:  Now we are here at the brink of war. {Responding to Student 1 I believe}

. . .

Doctor White: French?

Student 2:  Europe in general

Claire: If you re to be attacked?

Student 2:  Conflict is different.

Claire:  {Makes a comment about the underdogs and that we are under attack making it underdog vs. allies.}

Student 3:  The United States was built on the great design of diversity. …Principles of Dignity = higher ideal and the constitution interpretation has non- racial implication. What is American culture? Here is the question. I think … {He goes on to explain that the American culture has been introduced world wide via the media)… our culture is exported.

Claire:  Right.

Student 4: 911 is a good example of race unity. Everyone hung flags and united after 911. {States principle of country unity during 911)

Claire:  I was thinking of something a little smaller like east vs. west. . . . The thing is we would come together.

Dr. White:  One way it relates in the book …{Explains that Cooper relates Hawkeye as an old idea or concept. He was the pure blood the man with “no cross in his blood.” He represents old ideas and then comes along Cora who is mixed blood and because of it is better for who she is. She is the center of all attention and she is mixed blood.}

Student 1:  On the larger scale, Europeans where intrusive and are we the same? Yes, we do bully but does it makes us like the Indians? No.

 in relation to your other questions, these people are wanting… we can say that we are… {Idea is that these people (Iraq) are not innocent either, nor are they week. The have been fighting between themselves for ever}

Claire: Even here in America there are weak people.

Student 5:  I do not know the history of the American Indians… Country first state second… {Makes a reference towards the Indian nation being a whole entity and not separated.}

Student 1: We brought that up in the other class… (missed the rest)

Student 5:  We are the United States … Individuals.

Claire:  Everyone has general [unity]. {Missed the last part}

Student 3:  I think that in terms off…{refers to the 9/11 incident and to a movie documentary, shows that even in a city that is unified by a hate crime there is still an “underlying division that still exists.”} to an hall discussion… interesting… dynamic due to the hate crime…. Underlying division that still exists.

Student 6:  I think it takes a larger scale, huge large scale attack that bring together the people.

The discussion bounced a lot during the 20 minutes or so of conversation. The gist of the unity of people as a whole and whether or not we are unified participants in today’s time. This theme of unity was being compared to the unity presented by the factions in the Coopers’ Last of The Mohicans”. The beginning of the conversation was more of a refinement of the 3 part question that Claire originally asked. The question took off on a tangent of unity during 9/11 and the impending war that some people agree and others disagree too. Ironically this showed the division and lack of ideological unity among the classroom. Claire brought the conversation back to bare with the stating that “we would come together “in times of crisis. This prompted other conversation on the division of race even though the issue of race was never a factor in the interpretation of the founding documents. This tangent lead to the discussion of the war some more and the question posed about the Indian tribal nature and whether or not they where a unified race. The conversation was ended by a student saying that if the conflict was large enough and true enough then we would all come together as a unified country.