LITR 4232: American Renaissance

University of Houston-Clear Lake, spring 2002

Student Presentation Summary

Reader: Val Harpster

Recorder: Angie Rau

March 14, 2002

Ligeia and The Fall of the House of Usher

          Poe helps to create an image in the reader’s mind using vivid descriptions. This carries over and makes some descriptions seem like more detail is given than exists.  Example: Lady Madeline’s death in The Fall of the House of Usher is only about two lines. On p. 2403, the reader feels the depths of despair which the narrator is suffering.

 

Obj. 2 Poe’s gothic:

Readers are never given Lady Ligeia’s last name, this makes the reader ask:

“What is being hidden from us?”  (mystery aspect of gothic) Page 2390

In Usher , the letter received stresses “natural” leading the reader to consider the supernatural, a gothic influence. Page 2401

In Ligeia, the description of the curtains: creating a pattern. The curtain description is both sublime and surreal. Page 2396

Insinuation of reincarnation may exist in the lives of the characters, at least Ligeia.  Her amount of knowledge leads you to believe she may have been around before.  The quote, “…but for life” reinforces the idea that Ligeia has been around before. Page 2391 and 2393

Bridges both British and American gothic. Page 2395

 

Obj. 3 Poe’s Representative problems / subjects:

Social commentary by Poe of his view of the world/society. Page 2404

The illness, present in Usher, represents the moral decay of society.  The decay of the house itself represents the economic instability of society/slavery.  The destruction of the house, at the end, could be a representative of the problems that were predicted to occur for the nation as slavery issues were to be resolved. These examples seem “almost like classic literature”.

QUESTION 1: Is there a distinction between popular and classic in Poe’s writings? Why or why not?

QUESTION 2: Is it possible for literature to endure if it is only popular, romantic, or classic?

Discussion:

Professor White:  Gothic is a popular angle; it reaches out and pulls you into it.  It also meets you where you are, in your already present mental framework.

Val:  We add details to the images created because of the images we are already carrying around in our minds.  Nostalgia plays a part in the readers’ reaction to something read.  Being scared of a storm, like the one in Usher, can be a scary experience or an enjoyable one or both.  The memories from this experience become a part of our memory and effect how we interpret other experiences whether read in a book or from an actual experience. 

Student 1:  Another example of this would be a romantic feeling.  Once the reader has experienced this feeling in the past, they tend to embellish this feeling in something they read. 

Val:  Just like in Ligeia, Poe embellished the romance here probably based on some experience of his own life.

Student 2:  I see Poe as being more popular than classic.  He would not have to sacrifice being popular to reach us by being classic.  I think Poe is more interested in the beauty of writing.

Val:  Poe really writes on the edge though.  He speaks of things like premature burial and incest without using the direct words.

Professor White:  That’s what popular culture is.  It goes somewhere without actually using the words.  It insinuates something while letting the reader decide what is meant.

Student 3:  Well, most humans are drawn to the grotesque, although Poe is not always gross.  It is natural to be interested in Poe’s type of stories.

Student 4:  Well, you either love Poe or hate him.

Professor White:  In terms of scholars, it is divided on those who love/hate Poe.  Another angle in Poe’s works is the struggling writer.  In real life Poe was a working writer and struggles to survive.

Val:  By hitting on things that are “out there” it pulls us in.  Poe would often speak of opium although it was not a problem for Poe himself (alcohol was).  He struggled with alcohol, married his first cousin, had major health problems, and lost almost every woman he loved.  These situations are what led to him writing about women and dying.  Poe romanticizes loss of love.

Professor White:  The women Poe loved were taken away from him.  Passage on page 2453, Poe felt “melancholy” was important.

Discussion followed that Poe gets “too detailed”.  Robin feels this sometimes causes the plot to get lost. 

Professor White:  Like Cooper, Poe builds stuff up dramatically, then finally you get to the action.

 

Quotes Handout

Connected both “Ligeia” and “Usher” with gothic detail, romanticism, and women.

underlying theme…maybe oppression in women’s lives

Description as the focus, creates atmosphere

Use of contrasts: Ligeia-dark    Lady Rowena-fair (2396)

Language used:  incubus, phantasmagoric, cataleptical, miasma

Though elaborate descriptively, he could be brief: 2408 the story line of lady Madeline Usher’s death is handled in only a line or two.

  “wildest and least frequented portions of fair England” like the American frontier in Mohicans.  “Remote and unsocial region of the country” like Mohicans  2395 3rd line from bottom. 

“Ligeia”

Sublime

2393 top “those eyes which at once so delighted and appalled me  …”

2394 middle of 1st full paragraph “How had I deserved to be so blessedso cursed with the removal of my beloved”

2400 final paragraph  The whole thing (This is the transcendence also)

Romanticism

2390 first paragraph    “memory” as opposed to “now” in the next line, “my beloved”, “remotely ancient date”, “deaden impressions of the outward world”, “her who is no more” and the elevation of the loved one: final 2 lines on 2390 and top line of 2391

2397 1st full paragraph 6th line and last three lines….   “My memory flew back, (oh, with what intensity of regret!)…. “consuming ardor of my longing for the departed, […] ah, could it be forever? – upon the earth.”

Gothic

2393  ¾ way down page   description of Ligeia: duller than Saturnian lead (her eyes/darkness), wild eyes blazed, pale fingers …transparent waxen hue

 2395 the abbey in disrepair combines the forest “castle” of America’s gothic (“wildest and least frequented portions of fair England”) with the “abbey” of England’s gothic    “gloomy and dreary grandeur of the building”  “savage aspect” “melancholy” “time-honored memories”

2396                      Bridal chamber: “regal” “castellated” see all highlights on 2396 and couple this with “Phantasmagoric” on 2397

Race

2391 all last paragraph…Ligeia of another race … “otherworldly” aspect

 

“Fall of the House of Usher”

Romanticism      perhaps in his memory of Roderick as a friend in youth…

Sublime  

2401 uses word “sublime’ describing his initial impression of the house

2405 5th line from bottom  (when talking about Roderick’s painting) “an intensity of intolerable awe…”

2410 last paragraph (storm) “a tempestuous yet sternly beautiful night, and one wildly singular in its terror and its beauty

2412 paragraph about ½ way down page “Oppressed….by a thousand conflicting sensations, in which wonder and extreme terror were predominant

Gothic

2401 top paragraph  first line “shades of the evening”, 7th line “eye-like windows”, 8th line “white trunks of decayed trees”, “black and lurid tarn”, “vacant and eye-like windows”

2403 “black oaken floor”, “encrimsoned light”

Slavery

2404half way down page “To an anomalous species of terror I found him a bounden slave.  “ I shall perish,” said he, “I must perish in this deplorable folly.  Thus, thus, and not otherwise, shall I be lost.  I dread the events of the future, not in themselves, but in their results.”